beating Udunion Everytime

Hey guys I just decided to post this guide up because lots of people feel that this is an impossible fight if the game wants it to be. The truth is that it isn't, it's just designed very well. There may also be other guides for fighting him, but I haven't searched so I'm putting it here for anyone who wants to know how to do it.

Voice chat is recommended, but this encounter can be done without as long as each and every group member knows what they are responsible for.

First off you have a few things to contend with.

Shadow take you - Use of the Staff of Dark Shadows on the western light.
Come dark fire - Use of Scroll of Ruin on the eastern light.
Buurrrrrnnn! - Use of Horn of Anor on the Northern light.

Shadow take you causes you to instantly die if the staff isn't used.

Burrnnn! causes you to instantly die if the horn isn't used

Come dark fire - will completely heal Udunion if the ruin isn't used.

Items needed:

2 Staff of Dark Shadows, could possibly be done with one, but 2 always works. And everyone having 2 items doesn't hurt either just in case someone misses their item.

1 Horn of Arnor

1 Scroll of ruin

These items listed above all drop from inside the instance from the 2 Sorc's in the east and west wings, and the Horn comes from the Castellen's chest.

Bring a stack of Flasks of Conhuith, and a stack of Healing Draughts. Also bring about 10 Salves of Conhuith, and 10 Healing Salves. The last two items mentioned will remove debuffs off and ally or yourself with a slight cast time, the flasks and draughts however are instant.

Then Udunion also has a fear debuff that instakills, as well as a Wound debuff that insta kills.

I'm writing this guide assuming that all the adds have already been taken care of the Sorceress and the Caretakers.

Recommended group make-up: (but can be done with any group and we have done it as well)

1 Guardian
1 Lore-master
2 Hunters
1 Minstrel
1 Champion, burglar, or captain

Position a staff holding hunter (or any class) on the West light
Position another staff holding (1 Champion, burglar, or captain) or any class on the eastern light.
Position the Lore-master (or any class) on the north light.

The fight begins....

Have only the tank hitting Udunion at this time and have your loremaster draw all his power (this is optional but I will always do it as long as there is a loremaster available)

Ok now we go back to the item holders we told to go to the lights (DO NOT STAND ON THE LIGHTS, STAND NEXT TO THEM) Standing on the lights makes you vunerable to his wound/fear debuffs and he's likely to chain both of them on you, me as a minstrel never stand on the lights and rarely get debuffed.
And that's the big secret right there for the debuffs, is standing in the light.

Once you get him down to around 58k he starts saying shadow take you.

Staff 1 is used right after he says SHADOW TAKE YOU... Not before, not during, but right after. Staff 2 counts 1,2,3 <-- Fast seconds not 1 mississippi 2 mississippi but 1,2,3.

ALWAYS USE THE STAFF TWICE (even if it isn't neccessary)

Once he starts saying shadow take you, the Tank drags him off the fire floor towards the north pillar keeping him enough range for the hunters to damage from each side (the amount of damage isn't that important during this fight, that's just a recommended setup)

From here just keep damaging you'll get random shadow take you (always use 2 staffs)

Then do the same when he says (Come dark fire) Use the ruin right after he says it not in the beginning not before, but directly after. And keep your guys off the light.

When you are inside the light you get a debuff called (VULNERABLE) Other then that no one leaves their post always be close to it, use the staff twice, and use your fear and wound pots and that's how this fight is done.

If you get a debuff and your potion timer is down, have your minstrel use their group pots to get them off of you, by default you should always remove the wound debuff because a minstrel has a cure fear as well, but again as long as you don't stand in the lights, it alleviates this problem for the most part, last time we killed him we only had one person get the double debuff and I was already there ready to use a pot on him.

Hope this guide helps, I'm not particularly good at writing them, the rest is just getting everyone on the same page but if you can remove your own debuffs the second the get put on you then you are less likely to be on a cooldown the next time it comes around.

Good luck for everyone going after this mob it's definitely challenging and exciting.
post by Shammus@http://forums.lotro.com